310 Cadet Velosity

August 2, 2012, 1:50 am

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Am reloading cast bullets using LIL'GUN powder . Using 7 Grains as a starting point .
Question : What velosity am I looking for using a non gas checked 120 grain cast bullet .
Have looked in my Lyman #39 handbook (1953 edition) for a range of velosities for a 32-20 rifle with a 115 cast bullet . Book says 1309 to 1600 FPS max .
The Pistol loads in 32 cal for cast non gas check are shown from 850 to 1000 FPS .
Tomarrow is test day . Will post results of test of group and velosity from the 120 gr cast bullet with the LIL'Gun load of 7 grains .

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August 5, 2012, 9:48 pm

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By Friday I had recovered enough from the drive back and forth to KC to drive down to St Louis to finish a trade I had discussed at dinner with some friends at at last week's show. This was the rifle that was described to me.

Shooting my Mini-Snider 360 No 5 Rook rifle

August 7, 2012, 6:07 pm

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Well, this certainly was a great experience.  The other day I finally took it out to the range.  I had made up some test rounds for it using 38 Long Colt brass, 3.2gr of Bullseye and a Hornady 148gr HBWC. My first round was fired from the rifle in my Lathi rest and 25 feet of cotton clothes line (just in case; you know what I mean) since I had NOT previously fired anything in the rifle except a primed case.  Well, it hit the target near where I had aimed it and it was a nice round hole.  THAT was a 2 for 2 in my book.

I switched to my rifle rest and fired the remaining 14 rounds from 25 yards.  Granted, not too great a distance but I wanted to get familiar with it before getting carried away.  I was rewarded handsomely.  The rifle shoots just a couple inches above point of aim, 3 or 4 at most.  If I put the front bead at the very bottom of the rear sight ( a very deep and wide, square-bottomed notch) I can put 'em where I want...

Wilkes .300 Rook

August 8, 2012, 5:50 am

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This is a Wilkes .300 Rook that I bought a few years ago.
It had a poor replacement stock but the metal was in pretty good shape with some colors still visible and really wonderful engraving.
I found a blank on EBay which was cheap because it had a crack running vertically from the bottom.  Turns out the only stock that could be turned out would be for a rook or light rifle so the blank worked out perfectly for this rifle.  Steve Bertram did the work.

BSA .22 War Office Trainer.

August 9, 2012, 10:37 am

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Hello, i have a 1907 BSA War Office single shot trainer and it has a broken firing pin and I am wondering if there are any places in UK that would have a spare pin for sale or where i could get one from.

Cheers

Steve
(Australia)

Peiper Martini?

August 9, 2012, 5:26 pm

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This is a Cashmore retailed Martini I have coming to me. I have a feeling i was made by Peiper, but it is different than the other ones I have seen in that the lever does not form a complete trigger guard loop. Everything else, including the caliber seems to say Peiper, but I'm certainly would welcome more educated opinions.

 

Mystery solved

August 15, 2012, 9:20 pm

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The whole time I was bidding on a Cashmore (Peiper) 44/40 Martini I was trying to remember where I had seen it before. As soon as I unpacked it, I remembered it was one of the rifles Thad Scott imported from Australia that  I helped to clean up. Sure enough there was Thad's import stamp on the bottom of the barrel in front of the forend. This also confirms my assumption that it was meant to be a Kangaroo rifle. I'll post pictures as soon as I take them. 

Removing a BSA Martini Cadet stock

August 16, 2012, 8:47 am

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Does anyone know how to remove both the front and rear stock on a BSA Martini Cadet? I think it is a type 4.  Either way it almost has full wood stock with a barrel band at the front with two small pins? and a screw on the bottom where the sling is attached and it looks like there is a drift pin 3/4 of the way down the front stock.

Any advice anyone could offer on how to remove this would be very much appreciated as I want to remove the metal and wood work to refurbish/

Many thanks in return.

Regards,

Craig

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Francotte Cadet clearing rod

August 24, 2012, 9:35 pm

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Hi all.   I hope to be picking up an Ozzy Francotte Cadet rifle, if I am lucky.   As seems typical, the clearing rod is missing.   Does anyone out there now the dimensions/design?

Thanks,

Peter.

British Patent help needed

September 10, 2012, 10:01 pm

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I picked up this rather plain H&H rook rifle. I found this patent on the water table. I could not locate it in Hoyem's 7 volume set of British firearm patents. Can anyone find it in some other reference?  

Francotte Martini Rook Rifle PHOTOS ADDED 9/17/12

September 11, 2012, 9:37 am

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Dougall (Allport) Rook Rifle

September 13, 2012, 11:31 pm

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This past weekend I finally found a good example of what Colin Greenwood described as an Allport rook rifle. These were made in both hammer and hammerless versions. 

Virtually all of them have this same pattern machined on the side. with the retailer's name added to the space provided.

This one sports beautiful wood and checkering on the full length of the barrel flat. 

Interesting Cadet

September 16, 2012, 10:17 pm

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I have been thinking about a .310 Cadet for some time, this one turned up today

Retailed by Walter Locke & Co., Calcutta, Delhi and Lahore, it looks ok to me, the bore is excellent, a lady shot it until very recently

The plaque on the stock reads "Col. Temple McKenzie, Omdurman 1909". I will try to research the history - India, Omdurman, UK, used until recently - in the same family? -  if only it could talk!






I can't seem to delete one of these without the other!



The Birmingham Small Arms Co. Ltd. England - Cartridge 310

Parker Hale CMT 2

September 24, 2012, 10:22 pm

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Until I visited David Kaiser and he showed me his wife's CMT, I was unaware of them. What appealed to me is that they only weigh around 7 LBS. I bought this one but found it has a ruined chamber caused by deactivation when it was in England. I'm sending it back to the seller, but thought some of you might be interested in seeing one. 

Martini Madness

September 25, 2012, 12:40 pm

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I guess I'm a soft touch for the Martini, large frame, small frame; here's a few of the 32 in my collection aquired over many years!





Sporting rifles include 303 Brit, 222Rimmed, 17/222Rimmed, 17 Ackley Hornet, 218 Mashburn Bee ansd 25/35 Winchester

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BSA re-barrelling of the Francotte Cadet.

October 11, 2012, 5:47 pm

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I wonder if anyone can come up with a likely reason for my problem here.

I have just taken delivery from Oz of a Victoria Francotte Cadet rifle ('Francotte Patent' roundel) in 297/230 to complement my BSA .310 Cadet and my BSA No. 6 and 12/15.   I am in the UK.  A few things need to be done to fix it up but I was prepared for that and they are easily do-able.   The woodwork and metalwork are in very good to excellent condition, the wood particularly - hardly marked.   My disappointment is that the barrel thread does not properly register with the receiver thread.  Though the threads match.   By which I mean that if the barrel is fully turned home then the sights end up 1/3rd over to the left and of course the extractor cut-out is correspondingly displaced from the vertical.   Yet the BSA barrel is correctly marked 230L and dated 1907 and has the correct rear and front sights.  ...

Crimping the .310 Cadet

October 11, 2012, 11:31 pm

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In browsing the Forum I have noticed a number of posts asking how to crimp these cases.   When I started reloading my .310 I was concerned that the bullets could move in transit and I was also convinced that crimping of these little light rounds would help to ensure that the small powder charge would build up a consistent pressure.   That along with having the OAL such that the bullet was pressed aginst the rifling for the same reason.  But how to crimp the case?  A good friend with a lifetime of reloading experience had the answer.   A .303 or 7.5mm crimping die.  But with the cartridge put bullet-down into the top.   With a simple bush made up with a shallow shoulder on the bottom to centre it in the top of the die.  A hole drilled down the middle for the case.  And the length of the bush adjusted so the case protrudes just enough to put the mouth of the case into the crimping section of...

W-R Cleaning rod

October 15, 2012, 8:32 pm

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I have to apologize to anyone who copied the cleaning rod for which I gave the measurements  When I was helping my wife put the Cadets back in the gun room, I suddenly realized that was the cleaning rod from my Francotte 297/230 Cadet. This is as much of the .310 W_R's cleaning rod as I can show since it appears to be firmly entrenched in the W-R. Its diameter is .188 and the the slotted end is .250 across and .875 long.

Cadet sling

October 24, 2012, 2:01 pm

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Hi there
Does anyone know of a source of original BSA Cadet slings?

I came across this photo of an NSW Australian soldier in a book about the Battle of Passchendaele. The photo was obviously taken before the war and you can just see the fellow next to the subject holding a silver trophy - presumably for shooting since the group are all proudly displaying their Cadet rifles (with foresight protectors fitted). Anyway, I attach the pic because it presumably shows the type of sling originally fitted to Cadet rifles.

But where to get one?




Glyn

British Single Shot Rifles Vol. 7. Rook and Rabbit Rifles.

November 15, 2012, 2:27 pm

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I've just taken delivery of this book by Wal Winfer. A tad more expensive than the previous volumes but it's a lot thicker than the others and well worth every penny. For fellow Englishmen Penbury Books have it is stock right now. A very broad hint to the 'Missus' may get you a copy for Christmas. A great book the first of two on Rook Rifles. I have also been informed by Kynamco a couple of weeks ago that most, if not all, of Wal's books on single shot rifles have been republished. Time to get a full set it you can.
Harry